Curse

Missing HB · Sep 02, 2010, 04:33 PM // 16:33

As you know , henchmen tonics which appeared after henchman contest last september are unique. Due to the following facts :
- tonics are usable in areas , and look very nice ( they're based on unique look character..)
- they came after an " unfair " contest , since it was said that only original and non meta bars would be taken
- many people who won logged on Guild wars only to do the contest and aren't even playing , thus those tonics are very hard to find ..( i even heard from people that most tonics disappeared due to 3700 accounts banned recently ..)

I am suggesting to add those everlasting tonics in zaishen chest ( or why not in hall chest , we could discuss about it ), dropping at a very low rating ( lower than grenth/rollerbeetle/frostman tonic ) ...

jazilla · Sep 02, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

sounds awesome.
/signed

Reformed · Sep 02, 2010, 06:14 PM // 18:14

In before shitstorm of the winners who got them through copypasta. Should be open to more folks now since it wasn't much of a contest and the bans yada yada.

/signed

Jensy · Sep 02, 2010, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Well, I still have my henchmen tonic (Blenkeh) since I wasn't stupid enough to get banned >_> Just saying :P

Shayne Hawke · Sep 02, 2010, 06:51 PM // 18:51

I would be all for the recirculation of the tonics that have found their way to banned accounts, but not for the distribution of additional tonics of characters that already exist.

AngelWJedi · Sep 02, 2010, 06:56 PM // 18:56

this is anet we're talking about. they say one thing do another. i cant see them adding these tonics to the chests. even thought it would be cool if they added them and the halloween/xmas contest items too.

*lemming* · Sep 02, 2010, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Super rare drops are always a bad idea.

TheGuildWarsPenguin · Sep 02, 2010, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Allow non-everlasting versions of the henchman tonics to be purchased with zcoins?

Zodiac Meteor · Sep 02, 2010, 07:40 PM // 19:40

/signed x 10

Everlasting Cynn tonic would be f-ing awesome.
Also everlasting Guild Lord tonic, Ghostly Hero tonic and Everlasting Gods tonics (Including Kormir and very, very rare Dhuum)

Quote:

I cant see them adding these tonics to the chests.

I agree, maybe the gods tonics and Guild Lord tonics be exclusive to Zaishen Chest. I love the war supplies that you get from WiK quests and why not build on that?

Instead of Dungeon chests dropping completely useless Onyx and Diamonds why not have them drop 'insert name' tokens that you can trade for to get certain 'insert name' Gifts?
-Depending on the difficulty of the dungeon depends on how many tokens drop. (Ex. Heart of the Shiverpeaks 5nm 10hm and Duncan 30nm 60hm etc.)
-The gifts can also give Asuran, Norn, Ebon Vanguard and Delver Reputation when you open them (100-1000)
-They have a chance to give other various things (party, alcohol, sweets, summon stones, mini pets)
-Of course the everlasting henchie tonics.
-Lastly these 'insert name' gifts have a slim chance to give an item that can be sold to the Merchant at a set price. The more the item is worth the smaller the chance to get it.
Bronze Medal (1k)
Bronze Trophy (5k)
Silver Medal (10k)
Silver Trophy (25k)
Gold Medal (50k)

I love to have these as a chance to grab at Locked Chests (Bronze Medal-Silver Trophy), Eye of the North dungeon chests (Bronze Medal-Gold Trophy), UW/FoW chests (Silver Medal-Platinum Medal) Lastly from the Zaishen Chest (Silver Medal-Zaishen Trophy) and HoH chest (Gold Medal-The Heroes Glory)

Gold Trophy (75k)
Platinum Medal (100k)
Platinum Trophy (Double click to gain 5,000 Balthazar faction, 25 uses)
Zaishen Medal (Double click to gain 10,000 Balthazar faction, 25 uses)
Zaishen Trophy (Double click to gain 10,000 Balthazar faction, 50 uses)

*Not trade able*
The Gladiators Kinship (Double click to gain 100 Gladiator Points)
The Zaishen Honor (Double click to gain 1,000 Zaishen Points)
The Hero's Glory (Double click to gain 500 Hero Points)

There is so much that they could add to the game. The Zaishen Coins are pretty much a worthless flop because the items are not hard to get at all. It's more trouble to get the Zaishen Coins than getting the items the traders have to offer. The best thing about them is their just a small bonus for doing extra stuff. No one in the game does locked chests runs just for the items. They do it only for Lucky/unlucky points and merch whatever comes out.

To balance out these items unstable gold increase to the GW economy, nerf shadow form (u c what i did ther?)

TheodenKing · Sep 02, 2010, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Never heard of them. Thanks for showing me something I can't have. ARRRGGGH!

Seriously though, that might make me waste a few zkeys if they stuck some in the zchest.

Fusylum · Sep 02, 2010, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuildWarsPenguin

Allow non-everlasting versions of the henchman tonics to be purchased with zcoins?

I like this...

Nothing else

All these other ideas are crap...

jazilla · Sep 02, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming

Super rare drops are always a bad idea.

totally agree.

Lord Dagon · Sep 02, 2010, 11:37 PM // 23:37

i like rare drops.. would acctually make me use zkeys on the zchest. I mena cmon.. how awsome would it to be to have an el dhuum tonic in the game w/ like a .0000000000001% chance of comming from the zchest? id buy it lol.

edit: oh and zodiac i like how you started your idea but after the "bronze medal" idea.. it just went downhill

Fawxy Lawxy · Sep 03, 2010, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

/signed x 10

Everlasting Cynn tonic would be f-ing awesome.
Also everlasting Guild Lord tonic, Ghostly Hero tonic and Everlasting Gods tonics (Including Kormir and very, very rare Dhuum)

I agree, maybe the gods tonics and Guild Lord tonics be exclusive to Zaishen Chest. I love the war supplies that you get from WiK quests and why not build on that?

Instead of Dungeon chests dropping completely useless Onyx and Diamonds why not have them drop 'insert name' tokens that you can trade for to get certain 'insert name' Gifts?
-Depending on the difficulty of the dungeon depends on how many tokens drop. (Ex. Heart of the Shiverpeaks 5nm 10hm and Duncan 30nm 60hm etc.)
-The gifts can also give Asuran, Norn, Ebon Vanguard and Delver Reputation when you open them (100-1000)
-They have a chance to give other various things (party, alcohol, sweets, summon stones, mini pets)
-Of course the everlasting henchie tonics.
-Lastly these 'insert name' gifts have a slim chance to give an item that can be sold to the Merchant at a set price. The more the item is worth the smaller the chance to get it.
Bronze Medal (1k)
Bronze Trophy (5k)
Silver Medal (10k)
Silver Trophy (25k)
Gold Medal (50k)

I love to have these as a chance to grab at Locked Chests (Bronze Medal-Silver Trophy), Eye of the North dungeon chests (Bronze Medal-Gold Trophy), UW/FoW chests (Silver Medal-Platinum Medal) Lastly from the Zaishen Chest (Silver Medal-Zaishen Trophy) and HoH chest (Gold Medal-The Heroes Glory)

Gold Trophy (75k)
Platinum Medal (100k)
Platinum Trophy (Double click to gain 5,000 Balthazar faction, 25 uses)
Zaishen Medal (Double click to gain 10,000 Balthazar faction, 25 uses)
Zaishen Trophy (Double click to gain 10,000 Balthazar faction, 50 uses)

*Not trade able*
The Gladiators Kinship (Double click to gain 100 Gladiator Points)
The Zaishen Honor (Double click to gain 1,000 Zaishen Points)
The Hero's Glory (Double click to gain 500 Hero Points)

There is so much that they could add to the game. The Zaishen Coins are pretty much a worthless flop because the items are not hard to get at all. It's more trouble to get the Zaishen Coins than getting the items the traders have to offer. The best thing about them is their just a small bonus for doing extra stuff. No one in the game does locked chests runs just for the items. They do it only for Lucky/unlucky points and merch whatever comes out.

To balance out these items unstable gold increase to the GW economy, nerf shadow form (u c what i did ther?)

Adding pvp titles points to a consumable item is tolly brave.
But srsly. There are already zaishen coins for the stuff you're talking about.
Why would they add more.

Miycu · Sep 03, 2010, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Personaly I'd just add them to the list of items obtainable through Nicholas the traveler gifts and the zchest as single use items. Then put everlasting ones in the zchest with the current drop rate for everlastings.

I mean what as the point in coding them if their never going to see the light of day again when so many were lost in bans. Not to mention that the remainder are virtually untradeable because they're so rare that no amount of cash is worth trading one away.

mathiastemplar · Sep 03, 2010, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Let's just give everyone a henchman tonic..

Leave it be, really.

Altho I am sick of exclusive stuff, I don't think anything has to be changed.
At best they should add non-everlasting versions to Zchest/Zcoin trader.....

Missing HB · Sep 03, 2010, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miycu

Personaly I'd just add them to the list of items obtainable through Nicholas the traveler gifts and the zchest as single use items. Then put everlasting ones in the zchest with the current drop rate for everlastings.

I mean what as the point in coding them if their never going to see the light of day again when so many were lost in bans. Not to mention that the remainder are virtually untradeable because they're so rare that no amount of cash is worth trading one away.

Yes, that's the reason i made this thread , actually i had only seen some guy selling Vincent Evan tonic , but it was so high price ( can't remember really , was for sure more than 2500e) that it was pointless.. Never saw any other tonic since that time.

But, if tonics were added, to fix the problem of " lucky drop worth 5000ectos" , we could just make those everlasting tonics untradeable when dropped from the zaishen chest

Fluffy Kittens · Sep 03, 2010, 10:50 AM // 10:50

Well as Missing HB stated earlier those who got tonics got it from an unfair contest where ONLY META builds were chosen despite the Anet statements they won't give reward to any meta build.
So I think it's fair that other people have a chance of getting the tonic. Maybe zaishen chest isn't a good idea but Anet could think of something better if they would care.
/signed even tho I have no interest at all for those items

Hugh Manatee · Sep 03, 2010, 11:17 AM // 11:17

IMO the HoH chest, maybe Z-Chest, and maybe a handful of other chests should have the ability to drop anything, and i mean ANYTHING. Like how old school chests could drop crystal swords(and some still can drop the grape versions). Either way it's a long shot and either way you got ****ing lucky.

Essence Snow · Sep 03, 2010, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Idk bout anyone else, but I cant stand having to see them in my gh much less everywhere else. I seem to have an issue with f'd contest reminders. If it were regular henchies, I wouldn't mind, but not the ones that plague our ghs.